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Post subject: NEW MEMBERS PLEASE READ: Modern Vampyres
 Posted: Aug 06, 2004 - 02:16 PM
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In this I shall attempt to give you an idea of what real/modern vampyres consist of and those associated.
Real or modern vampyres are indeed human, they are often split into two types which are Sanguin (sang.) & Psychic (psi.) and it is not uncommon for a person to have traits of both types. Both require energy to stabalize some part of their mind, body or some may even claim soul, it is not a do or die scenario but rather it is often like having an addiction. It is known that when they do not feed the experiance symptons of feeling weak, headaches, loss of train of thought, depression/sadness, easily aggrivated but not limited to these things.
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The energy these people take in can help them feel more "alive," for a limited amount of time, it can even inspire them, cause them to focus on what is important in their life because they have filled the hunger momentarily and it is a unique experiance that can make every last nerve on their body tingle. Again, they are not limited to these things and often there are more results from the energy they recieve, everyone is differant.
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People are born this way and often realize they are of this nature by their awakening which can be just a time thing or it can be
invoked by a new or dramatic emotional or traumatic event. You can not become one by drinking the blood of a vampyre as numerous fictional works have made up. But one could thealogize that taking in the essence of life from a vampyre would hold a specific energy that is not quite as the norm' and that it might invoke the awakening in another person.. but that would be on the basis that the person taking the source in could already be a vampyre and the blood was merely waking them up.. or maybe at best it could help a regular person feel something similar to what the vampyre feels since there is a energy exchange. This is a personal & loose theory though.
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Others with vampyric tendancies or intrigues can often be people who have convinced themselves they are real vampyres, some may merely have a blood fetish or enjoy role playing and such people are very welcommed to frolic in the culture so long as they do not misportray vampyres to others whom are less familiar with this subject of modern vampirism.
In sum, vampirism is indeed a condition that can affect each person in it's own way but yet share a certain basis (energy,) and one way or another our bodies are our hosts and are not immortal no matter what we wish to believe. There is only one possible theory I can pose to suggest anything in relation to immortality and such a subject is another personal view and not something that is necassarily bound to this culture but some believe their souls are that of vampyres from the past (be it one year, ten years or a thousand years,) and that they have carried on through the times by reincarnation. Such a theory is not that rediculous if you believe in a varient of religions or spiritualities. |
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Posted: Sep 28, 2004 - 07:24 AM
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I have a question: can the traits of sang. or psi vampirism descend from human parents? I've awaken myself when I was very young. For some reason I knew I was different from the kids around me, mostly because
of the very often and deep deja-vu's I used to have, but as time passed I found out some sort of resemblence in the energetic behaviour with my mom, and sometimes with my dad also. I asked this question because I heared people saying that the vampiric traits descend from the person who awakes you. And it's in a way logical. You first feed with a vampire's energy and you tend to become like him/her, the person becoming your 'parent', even though you of course have some distinctive, unique traits. But how about if you've awakened yourself? Who you resemble with then? |
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Posted: Dec 22, 2004 - 10:01 AM
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Posted: Dec 22, 2004 - 11:59 AM
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| BlackTear wrote: | I have a question: can the traits of
sang. or psi vampirism descend from human parents?
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Sorry I missed this. I think I'm a bit taken aback by the wording used here Black Tear. "Human parents". I AM a human being, I have of course human parents. So I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you saying that you feel that Vampyristic people are some how non human? as in a different species of being entirely?
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I've awaken myself when I was very
young. For some reason I knew I was different from the kids around me, mostly because
of the very often and deep deja-vu's I used to have, but as time passed I found out
some sort of resemblence in the energetic behaviour with my mom, and sometimes with my
dad also. I asked this question because I heared people saying that the vampiric
traits descend from the person who awakes you. And it's in a way logical.
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I had begun a topic called "Do we awaken ourselves due to the amount of times I have heard people say that they believe that someone else awakened them. My oppinion is that the traits you have, you have always had. Like with any other physical thing that needs attention for you to have a healthy life. Not all diabetics have diabetic children. Not all bipolar parents have bi polar children.
Mt theory is that at some point in the construction of our being , either cellularly or metaphysically there was a weakness that causes our loss of pranic energy. A leak perhaps. We simply do not metabolise or use or store pranic energies like other people. So supplementaion is necessary.
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feed with a vampire's energy and you tend to become like him/her, the person becoming
your 'parent', even though you of course have some distinctive, unique traits. But how about if you've awakened yourself? Who you resemble with
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Now this confuses me. Are you refering to the folklore of a person that is drained of their blood/energy being fed from the vampyre and that making them one? This simply does not happen. It's not soemthing you catch. There is a term I don't like much called 'sympathetic vampyrism' some people believe that if you draw too much or too often from a donor swan you can in est make them vampyric. I frankly think it's a little far fetched.
I do not think I am descended from any other person in my family tree where vampyrism is concerned. |
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Posted: Dec 22, 2004 - 01:41 PM
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| Quote: | | Are you saying that you feel that Vampyristic people are some how non human? as in a different species of being entirely? |
Yes, I do believe that Vampyristic people are non-human, as in more than human, but not an entirely different species. I tend to believe that due to their superior abilities (communication, evolved senses - take psi. for example, or even the everlasting longing for blood at sangs), which humans don't posses. I do realise that saying that vampyristic people are entirely non-human would be absurd, for in the end we are all born from human parents, and we have the shape of a human, which is undenyable  I do think however that vampyristic people are a bit different from humans due to their special something which in the end makes them vampyristic .
| Quote: | | My oppinion is that the traits you have, you have always had. Like with any other physical thing that needs attention for you to have a healthy life |
Does this mean everyone could be a vampyre if worked on it? I really don't think so..
| Quote: | | We simply do not metabolise or use or store pranic energies like other people. |
We, other people, I see that you believe that we are different too, at least subconsciously  sorry, just teasing.. 
| Quote: | Mt theory is that at some point in the construction of our being , either cellularly or metaphysically there was a weakness that causes our loss of pranic energy. A leak perhaps. We simply do not metabolise or use or store pranic energies like other people. So supplementaion is necessary.
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Well, I don't agree with your theory, for this would contradict all that I've built so far, and would lead me into an everlasting void, but I will think about it, and pend before I'll take my next step while walking my path.
| Quote: | | Now this confuses me. Are you refering to the folklore of a person that is drained of their blood/energy being fed from the vampyre and that making them one? |
No, I'm not refering to folklore.. believe it or not, I realised that once you spend much time with someone, the person who awakened you for example, the energy fields tend to resemble and become a whole for when you are near someone inevitably the energy fields "touch", even unite.
Hope I made myself a little bit more clear this time I'm sorry but I'm not a native English speaker..and I tend to believe that this is the cause of my crazy (maybe missinterpreted) post..
Anyway, thanks for answering!
Wish you all the best,
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Post subject: NEW MEMBERS PLEASE READ: Modern Vampyres
Posted: Feb 04, 2005 - 04:30 AM
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I have just realized that what I am going through is an awakening.. It has been going on for about two weeks. The awakening is explaining all the emotions and the thing that are happening to me.
I dont know what to do. I live in Israel and this site was the first good thing that happened to me in the past two weeks. Please help me, what do I do next? I am so scarred.. Vampire? What will I tell my parents? |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 - 05:37 AM
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| Mecha wrote: | I have just realized that what I am going through is an awakening.. It has been going on for about two weeks. The awakening is explaining all the emotions and the thing that are happening to me.
I dont know what to do. I live in Israel and this site was the first good thing that happened to me in the past two weeks. Please help me, what do I do next? I am so scarred.. Vampire? What will I tell my parents? |
First I would suggest reading some of the articles here, and as for discussing with parents your thoughts about what you are, I don't really suggest this. I hear it quite often, but I'm not sure the reasoning behind it. It's not like they will notice something so different about you that they will have to be told. At least not that information. Not that I ever condone outright lying to parents, but other than shock value I see little reason to worry them. As I said before, reading and learning about what awakening means is best. Just try not to rush things. We are fully human like everyone else, but with energy deficiencies that have to be met in different ways than the norm. How we came to be this way is the question many of us wonder about, and the only true mystery. But it is not so scary when you study and understand what the energy body is and how it feeds on lifeforce. Which all people do, not just us. But we have a problem maintaining that energy. 'Vampyre' is just a word. We could as easily be called 'Energy Deficients' and it wouldn't sound so frightening or supernatural. I suppose I'm having my own identity crisis right now and the reason for the path my thoughts take today. But I hope you don't scare yourself or worry your parents before fully understanding what vampyric needs involve.
We're always here for questions though, so don't worry about my rambling. I'll be more lucid on the subject later most likely 'lol'....anyway, welcome to Darkness Embraced, Mecha. |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 - 06:05 AM
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Thanks I realy apperciate this.
I dont have anyone to talk to about this.. That is why I asked about the parents thing.
I am getting the feeling that this is going to be even harder as I develop this.. Is it?
It is realy nice to have people who I can relate to.. Realy. |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 - 06:12 AM
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| Mecha wrote: | Thanks I realy apperciate this.
I dont have anyone to talk to about this.. That is why I asked about the parents thing.
I am getting the feeling that this is going to be even harder as I develop this.. Is it? |
Hmmm...that's hard to say, but for me, it got easier after learning about it because I lost much of the guilt I had carried around with me, plus I learned the positive aspects of it, whereas before I thought it only could be a negative thing. |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 - 06:16 AM
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Thank you very much.
I hope I can learn from you as much as I can to help me deal with this in the best manner.
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Posted: Feb 12, 2005 - 10:32 AM
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Awakening is sometimes as simple as self-realization or one could deny that there is a change occuring and make their life very difficult. I remember many years ago when I tried to deny the awakening. I suffered such an identity crisis. Luckily about 4 years later along come one of my friends that was a psi-vamp and helped me realize I'm not insane just afraid to embrace that which is.
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Posted: Apr 27, 2005 - 09:03 AM
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| Can you awaken but suppress it for a long time? |
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Posted: Apr 27, 2005 - 11:41 AM
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| IMO No. Once you know something you can not NOT know it again. You can deny it, choose not to deal with it, pretend it's not real, but not go back to before you knew. |
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Posted: Apr 27, 2005 - 07:08 PM
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| In reference to the species comments, I think many people confuse the vampire condition with alot of other phenomena. This is not to say there can't be a telepathic vampire, just that the telepathy is not a necessary result of being a vampire. |
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Posted: May 01, 2005 - 11:42 PM
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Just a thought to add to the species thing...
Perhaps, whilst here we all inhabit these shells of meat called humanity, the difference in "species" is at heart, in the spirit? Meaning, there is a fundamental difference in the spiritual aspect of a vampyrically inclined human versus the spiritual aspect of a non-vampirically inclined human?
Perhaps this isn't as clear as I would wish it to be.. because truly all are the same, yet clearly there is a form of difference betwixt the two. Even many who are more spiritually aware than the typical are not deficient in the manners we seem to be. They have no "need" to feed.
Again, this doesn't seem as clear in words as it did conceptually in my mind, perhaps given time I can explain it better. |
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Posted: May 02, 2005 - 12:10 AM
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| I have to admit that I have learned quite some interesting things from this site and the people on it, but this has to be one of the most interesting ones. You see, I couldnt even tell you when I was awakened, I have been this way for as long as I can remember, I've had goth friends who were deep into the vampire masquerade, I've had psychic friends who just thought they knew what was best for everyone around them, but REAL vampirism, well thats something I never fully explored because I didnt understand the concept of someone awakening you. No one awakened me and no one outside my immediate family can even comprehend the sense behind it. I went through a drought once, energy-wise, I was married to someone for so long that I couldnt work right, think right, depressed isnt even the word, but it all came down to him restraining my energy and me allowing it, anyways I didnt want to get off the subject, this was just a quick note that I understand alot more now because I no longer feel like I'm in a league of my own. |
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Posted: May 03, 2005 - 07:48 AM
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| Quote: | | There is a term I don't like much called 'sympathetic vampyrism' some people believe that if you draw too much or too often from a donor swan you can in est make them vampyric. I frankly think it's a little far fetched. |
-LadyBlak
I have a question about this, and it may be asbsolutly absurd, but here goes.....
Okay, I know that a vampire feeds because of thier lack of energy, so when a vampire feeds from a donor, doesn't it make sense that after a while the donor would have a certain lack of energy also?
I don't know if that makes sense to you, but I figured I'd ask. |
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Posted: May 03, 2005 - 11:41 AM
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Oh, but it does make sense. The difference herein between the vampyre and the donor is that, typically, the donor will naturally recover their energy level, at a more rapid rate, than the vampyre WITHOUT feeding in this manner.
They have no need to feed from the energies of another being in the same manner we do, because of the fact that they do not, leak. :) Their recovery ability is greater. They seem to be more efficient in the way they naturally take in from the flow of life surrounding them.
Therefor, yes, if fed from greatly in a short period of time, a loss will occure. They will be drained. Realistically, if fed from at all, there is loss. But, if they are not drained greatly, for a prolonged period of time, and are given time to rest, to recovery; their energy levels are restored to where they were before. Typically. |
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Posted: May 04, 2005 - 11:56 AM
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I believe that I am going through the awakening process but there is no way my parents would support me in this.
How would I be able to buy and read books about modern vampirism? They are Mormon and will do anything to stop me from being involved in vampirism.
For now this is my only way of learning more and I appreciate this article. |
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Posted: May 12, 2005 - 12:49 AM
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thirRsty: Your best source of information is the internet, this site offers almost every thing you need to know, incase you haven't read them take a look at Lexicon and Vampyre Articles One and also Vampyre Articles Two
Jareth: I agree. Initially the differance is modern vamps have a energy inefficiantcy and can not reproduce energy as well or quickly as some one else.
But yes the "donour" whether they know they are or not (in regards to Psi. feeding) can become quite drained, there is often the cases of vamps not knowing what they are and they end up draining loved ones around them subconciously, this is often a sign of awakening.[/url] |
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